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jesusguime
Banned
Chinese
- Nov 20, 2008
- #1
Born in/to/into a poor family, h hadto struggle to earn his living.
Hi,
Do in, to, and into fit in the above and mean about the same to you? Thanks.
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Pidginboy
Senior Member
India-Local dialect
- Nov 20, 2008
- #2
Born in or born into a poor family, ...( are better options)
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Dimcl
Senior Member
British Columbia, Canada
Canadian English
- Nov 20, 2008
- #3
I must disagree with PidginBoy. "Born into" and "Born to" a poor family are the best options. "Born in" isn't usually used in this way. He wasn't "born in" a family, he was "born into" or "born to" a poor family.
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Forero
Senior Member
Maumelle, Arkansas, USA
USA English
- Nov 20, 2008
- #4
I agree with Dimcl. I wouldn't say "born in a poor family".
I think you could say "Born in poverty to a poor family, he had to struggle to earn a living."
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Bonjules
Senior Member
Caribbean
German
- Nov 20, 2008
- #5
Dimcl said:
I must disagree with PidginBoy. "Born into" and "Born to" a poor family are the best options. "Born in" isn't usually used in this way. He wasn't "born in" a family, he was "born into" or "born to" a poor family.
I also agree with Dimcl.
However, 'within' somehow seems a little more acceptable than 'in',
althouth probably not as good as the 2 other options.
sound shift
Senior Member
Derby (central England)
English - England
- Nov 20, 2008
- #6
My vote goes to "born into a poor family".
He/she wasn't born to a poor family; he/she was born to his/her mother and father.
He/she wasn't born in a poor family; he/she was born in a house/a hospital/poverty, etc.
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Dimcl
Senior Member
British Columbia, Canada
Canadian English
- Nov 20, 2008
- #7
sound shift said:
He/she wasn't born to a poor family; he/she was born to his/her mother and father.
"Born to a XYZ" is actually quite common. Google "born to a" for many references.
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PaleeZ
New Member
Persian(farsi)
- Nov 20, 2008
- #8
I used to think that IN is correct but now that I checked it I see
INTO is correctas in this example:Diana was born into an aristocratic family.
KON
Senior Member
Athens - Greece
Greek
- Nov 20, 2008
- #9
Born to a rich/poor family will be my best choice, but I have also heard born into so I wonder how the outcome of this thread will turn out.
Jenny was born to a poor family to a British father and a Dutch mother.
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Rachel85
New Member
Chinese-English
- Feb 26, 2009
- #10
"Born into a farm family, I do not have a good study environment."
Is "born into" in the setence right? or should it be replaced by
"born in"
Revontuli
Senior Member
Helsinki, Finland
Turkey-Turkish
- Feb 26, 2009
- #11
Hi Rachel,
I think "born into" is fine.
Loob
Senior Member
English UK
- Feb 26, 2009
- #12
I agree with Revontuli.
sdgraham
Senior Member
Oregon, USA
USA English
- Feb 26, 2009
- #13
You can be born "into" a family, but you might be born "in" a hospital or "on" a street corner, depending on the location and circumstances.
As to your complete sentence, it lacks logic. I think you're looking for a word other than "environment" or a different time description.
In other words, your birth parents cannot be assumed to control your present physical environment. If such is the case, you need to craft the sentence differently.
srta chicken
Senior Member
California
US English
- Feb 26, 2009
- #14
"Study environment" sounds OK to me, a teacher who has heard the phrase a lot. But sdgraham's point is well taken, and it would be helpful if you added something to the effect of, "The constant noise of barnyard animals makes it impossible to concentrate," --or, include whatever it is you are referring to.
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mplsray
Senior Member
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
English, USA
- Feb 26, 2009
- #15
Rachel85 said:
"Born into a farm family, I do not have a good study environment."
Is "born into" in the setence right? or should it be replaced by
"born in"
Although I see examples of "born in a(n) [adjective] family" on the Internet via Google, it strikes me as odd. It seems much more usual to me to say "born into a(n) [adjective] family" as in: Born into a farm family. Born into an artistic family. Born into a Catholic family.
WildWest
Senior Member
Istanbul
Turkish
- Sep 9, 2016
- #16
Added to previous thread.
Cagey, moderator
I'm personally inclined to say, for instance, "born to a wealthy family" as a non-native speaker, but I have just heard "born in a poor family" in Narcos' official trailer. It may be a matter of style. Perhaps?
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Cagey
post mod (English Only / Latin)
California
English - US
- Sep 9, 2016
- #17
It may be.
I would use 'into' here, or 'to', but I'm not inclined to criticize the writers for Narcos for their choice.
WildWest
Senior Member
Istanbul
Turkish
- Sep 9, 2016
- #18
Thanks for your reply, Cagey.
Krishnaprasad
New Member
Tamil & English
- Dec 7, 2016
- #19
This is what Oxford dictionary says:
I was born in 1976.
He was born in a small village in northern Spain.
She was born with a weak heart.
She was born into a very musical family.
He was born of/to German parents.
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Ivan_I
Banned
Russian
- Apr 24, 2020
- #20
It's into or to when "born in(to) adjective + family" but what about this?
He was the last child born in the family.
or
He was the last child born into/to the family.
dojibear
Senior Member
Fresno CA
English (US - northeast)
- Apr 24, 2020
- #21
Ivan_I said:
He was the last child born in the family.
I don't think "born" and "in" are connected in this sentence. To me this sentence is identical:
In this family, he was the last child born.
I can't evaluate the other sentences, other than to express their meaning (to me):
To me "born into" means "born, and became part of". He was born, and in this way became part of this family.
To me "born to the family" means "the family received". It matches the meaning of "gave to the family".
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Ivan_I
Banned
Russian
- Apr 25, 2020
- #22
Good explanation. I understood everything except this one
dojibear said:
To me "born to the family" means "the family received". It matches the meaning of "gave to the family".
Do you mean "given to the family"?
dojibear
Senior Member
Fresno CA
English (US - northeast)
- Apr 25, 2020
- #23
Yes. I mean that "born to" is like "given to". The word "to" is similar to the "to" before an indirect object.
But that is just my interpretation. All 3 of the examples in post #20 are correct.
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Ivan_I
Banned
Russian
- May 27, 2020
- #24
What about rich parents?
He was born to/into/of rich parents?
dojibear
Senior Member
Fresno CA
English (US - northeast)
- May 28, 2020
- #25
He was born to rich parents.
He was born of rich parents.
He was born into rich parents.
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Amy1981
Senior Member
Russian
- Jan 8, 2021
- #26
[This question has been added to an existing thread on the same topic. DonnyB - moderator]
Hello. Could you, please, help me? Is it possible to say : He was born to a poor family? What is the difference between "born in a poor family" and "born to a poor family"
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lingobingo
Senior Member
London
English - England
- Jan 8, 2021
- #27
To be born to is usually said in relation to one or both of your parents. For example: He was born to an English mother and a Russian father. Born in can be used in any context in which it makes sense.
heypresto
Senior Member
South East England
English - England
- Jan 8, 2021
- #28
You could also say 'He was born into a poor family'.
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Amy1981
Senior Member
Russian
- Jan 8, 2021
- #29
lingobingo said:
To be born to is usually said in relation to one or both of your parents. For example: He was born to an English mother and a Russian father. Born in can be used in any context in which it makes sense.
Thank you very much!
heypresto said:
You could also say 'He was born into a poor family'.
What is the meaning of this phrase?
lingobingo
Senior Member
London
English - England
- Jan 8, 2021
- #30
If your parents are Mr & Mrs Brown, you were born into the Brown family. They may have been rich or poor, Russian or American, etc. You would express that by saying you were born into a rich or poor family, a Russian or American family…
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Amy1981
Senior Member
Russian
- Jan 8, 2021
- #31
lingobingo said:
If your parents are Mr & Mrs Brown, you were born into the Brown family. They may have been rich or poor, Russian or American, etc. You would express that by saying you were born into a rich or poor family, a Russian or American family…
Thank you very much!
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