Born in/to/into a family, (2025)

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jesusguime

Banned

Chinese

  • Nov 20, 2008
  • #1

Born in/to/into a poor family, h hadto struggle to earn his living.

Hi,
Do in, to, and into fit in the above and mean about the same to you? Thanks.

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    Pidginboy

    Senior Member

    India-Local dialect

    • Nov 20, 2008
    • #2

    Born in or born into a poor family, ...( are better options)

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    Dimcl

    Senior Member

    British Columbia, Canada

    Canadian English

    • Nov 20, 2008
    • #3

    I must disagree with PidginBoy. "Born into" and "Born to" a poor family are the best options. "Born in" isn't usually used in this way. He wasn't "born in" a family, he was "born into" or "born to" a poor family.

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    Forero

    Senior Member

    Maumelle, Arkansas, USA

    USA English

    • Nov 20, 2008
    • #4

    I agree with Dimcl. I wouldn't say "born in a poor family".

    I think you could say "Born in poverty to a poor family, he had to struggle to earn a living."

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    Bonjules

    Senior Member

    Caribbean

    German

    • Nov 20, 2008
    • #5

    Dimcl said:

    I must disagree with PidginBoy. "Born into" and "Born to" a poor family are the best options. "Born in" isn't usually used in this way. He wasn't "born in" a family, he was "born into" or "born to" a poor family.

    I also agree with Dimcl.
    However, 'within' somehow seems a little more acceptable than 'in',
    althouth probably not as good as the 2 other options.

    sound shift

    Senior Member

    Derby (central England)

    English - England

    • Nov 20, 2008
    • #6

    My vote goes to "born into a poor family".

    He/she wasn't born to a poor family; he/she was born to his/her mother and father.

    He/she wasn't born in a poor family; he/she was born in a house/a hospital/poverty, etc.

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    Dimcl

    Senior Member

    British Columbia, Canada

    Canadian English

    • Nov 20, 2008
    • #7

    sound shift said:

    He/she wasn't born to a poor family; he/she was born to his/her mother and father.

    "Born to a XYZ" is actually quite common. Google "born to a" for many references.

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    PaleeZ

    New Member

    Persian(farsi)

    • Nov 20, 2008
    • #8

    I used to think that IN is correct but now that I checked it I see

    INTO is correct

    as in this example:Diana was born into an aristocratic family.

    KON

    Senior Member

    Athens - Greece

    Greek

    • Nov 20, 2008
    • #9

    Born to a rich/poor family will be my best choice, but I have also heard born into so I wonder how the outcome of this thread will turn out.

    Jenny was born to a poor family to a British father and a Dutch mother.

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    Rachel85

    New Member

    Chinese-English

    • Feb 26, 2009
    • #10

    "Born into a farm family, I do not have a good study environment."
    Is "born into" in the setence right? or should it be replaced by
    "born in"

    Revontuli

    Senior Member

    Helsinki, Finland

    Turkey-Turkish

    • Feb 26, 2009
    • #11

    Hi Rachel,

    I think "born into" is fine.

    Loob

    Senior Member

    English UK

    • Feb 26, 2009
    • #12

    I agree with Revontuli.

    sdgraham

    Senior Member

    Oregon, USA

    USA English

    • Feb 26, 2009
    • #13

    You can be born "into" a family, but you might be born "in" a hospital or "on" a street corner, depending on the location and circumstances.

    As to your complete sentence, it lacks logic. I think you're looking for a word other than "environment" or a different time description.

    In other words, your birth parents cannot be assumed to control your present physical environment. If such is the case, you need to craft the sentence differently.

    srta chicken

    Senior Member

    California

    US English

    • Feb 26, 2009
    • #14

    "Study environment" sounds OK to me, a teacher who has heard the phrase a lot. But sdgraham's point is well taken, and it would be helpful if you added something to the effect of, "The constant noise of barnyard animals makes it impossible to concentrate," --or, include whatever it is you are referring to.

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    mplsray

    Senior Member

    Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

    English, USA

    • Feb 26, 2009
    • #15

    Rachel85 said:

    "Born into a farm family, I do not have a good study environment."
    Is "born into" in the setence right? or should it be replaced by
    "born in"

    Although I see examples of "born in a(n) [adjective] family" on the Internet via Google, it strikes me as odd. It seems much more usual to me to say "born into a(n) [adjective] family" as in: Born into a farm family. Born into an artistic family. Born into a Catholic family.

    WildWest

    Senior Member

    Istanbul

    Turkish

    • Sep 9, 2016
    • #16

    Added to previous thread.
    Cagey, moderator

    I'm personally inclined to say, for instance, "born to a wealthy family" as a non-native speaker, but I have just heard "born in a poor family" in Narcos' official trailer. It may be a matter of style. Perhaps?

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    Cagey

    post mod (English Only / Latin)

    California

    English - US

    • Sep 9, 2016
    • #17

    It may be.
    I would use 'into' here, or 'to', but I'm not inclined to criticize the writers for Narcos for their choice.

    WildWest

    Senior Member

    Istanbul

    Turkish

    • Sep 9, 2016
    • #18

    Thanks for your reply, Cagey.

    Krishnaprasad

    New Member

    Tamil & English

    • Dec 7, 2016
    • #19

    This is what Oxford dictionary says:
    I was born in 1976.
    He was born in a small village in northern Spain.
    She was born with a weak heart.
    She was born into a very musical family.
    He was born of/to German parents.

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    Ivan_I

    Banned

    Russian

    • Apr 24, 2020
    • #20

    It's into or to when "born in(to) adjective + family" but what about this?

    He was the last child born in the family.
    or
    He was the last child born into/to the family.

    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Apr 24, 2020
    • #21

    Ivan_I said:

    He was the last child born in the family. Born in/to/into a family, (11)

    I don't think "born" and "in" are connected in this sentence. To me this sentence is identical:
    In this family, he was the last child born.

    I can't evaluate the other sentences, other than to express their meaning (to me):

    To me "born into" means "born, and became part of". He was born, and in this way became part of this family.

    To me "born to the family" means "the family received". It matches the meaning of "gave to the family".

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    Ivan_I

    Banned

    Russian

    • Apr 25, 2020
    • #22

    Good explanation. I understood everything except this one

    dojibear said:

    To me "born to the family" means "the family received". It matches the meaning of "gave to the family".

    Do you mean "given to the family"?

    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Apr 25, 2020
    • #23

    Yes. I mean that "born to" is like "given to". The word "to" is similar to the "to" before an indirect object.

    But that is just my interpretation. All 3 of the examples in post #20 are correct.

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    Ivan_I

    Banned

    Russian

    • May 27, 2020
    • #24

    What about rich parents?
    He was born to/into/of rich parents?

    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • May 28, 2020
    • #25

    He was born to rich parents. Born in/to/into a family, (14)Born in/to/into a family, (15)
    He was born of rich parents. Born in/to/into a family, (16)

    He was born into rich parents. Born in/to/into a family, (17)

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    Amy1981

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Jan 8, 2021
    • #26

    [This question has been added to an existing thread on the same topic. DonnyB - moderator]

    Hello. Could you, please, help me? Is it possible to say : He was born to a poor family? What is the difference between "born in a poor family" and "born to a poor family"

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    lingobingo

    Senior Member

    London

    English - England

    • Jan 8, 2021
    • #27

    To be born to is usually said in relation to one or both of your parents. For example: He was born to an English mother and a Russian father. Born in can be used in any context in which it makes sense.

    heypresto

    Senior Member

    South East England

    English - England

    • Jan 8, 2021
    • #28

    You could also say 'He was born into a poor family'.

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    Amy1981

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Jan 8, 2021
    • #29

    lingobingo said:

    To be born to is usually said in relation to one or both of your parents. For example: He was born to an English mother and a Russian father. Born in can be used in any context in which it makes sense.

    Thank you very much!

    heypresto said:

    You could also say 'He was born into a poor family'.

    What is the meaning of this phrase?

    lingobingo

    Senior Member

    London

    English - England

    • Jan 8, 2021
    • #30

    If your parents are Mr & Mrs Brown, you were born into the Brown family. They may have been rich or poor, Russian or American, etc. You would express that by saying you were born into a rich or poor family, a Russian or American family…

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    Amy1981

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Jan 8, 2021
    • #31

    lingobingo said:

    If your parents are Mr & Mrs Brown, you were born into the Brown family. They may have been rich or poor, Russian or American, etc. You would express that by saying you were born into a rich or poor family, a Russian or American family…

    Thank you very much!

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